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		<title>By: Artar1</title>
		<link>http://scotchhobbyist.com/2009/12/30/lagavulin-16-2009/#comment-1690</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 07:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jeff,

After reading your review and the other posts on your blog, I must admit my hesitancy over throwing the Lagavulin 16 under the bus, as it were. The bottle still sits on my whiskey shelf and not in some hand basket awaiting a Christmas re-gifting scheme.

I have tried the Balvenie 15, and I must say it has an unrivaled esophageal warmth, making it my whiskey of choice on cold, damp evenings. However, we get so few of them in the Central Valley of California; only in December, when the fog hangs low and wet, do I reach for this fire-breathing spirit.

My first experience with &quot;Scotch,&quot; beyond the obligatory Johnnie Walker Black Label and a 12-year-old Chivas Regal, was a small bottle of 18-year-old Glenfiddich, a mighty fine and never-a-harsh taste, if I may say so. But some might find it a tad characterless, but not me.

I would have to say now my go-to spirit is the Glenmorangie 10, and when I have a hankering for a slight caramel taste, the Macallan 12 isn&#039;t bad at all. The Glenlivet 12 is also refreshing, but not quite as involving as, let&#039;s say, the Balvenie.

So, I think I have a ways to go before I can more fully embrace the Lagavulin 16. Meanwhile, I will take you Whiskey Fanatic Test to see how far I have come.

Cheers and Merry Christmas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>After reading your review and the other posts on your blog, I must admit my hesitancy over throwing the Lagavulin 16 under the bus, as it were. The bottle still sits on my whiskey shelf and not in some hand basket awaiting a Christmas re-gifting scheme.</p>
<p>I have tried the Balvenie 15, and I must say it has an unrivaled esophageal warmth, making it my whiskey of choice on cold, damp evenings. However, we get so few of them in the Central Valley of California; only in December, when the fog hangs low and wet, do I reach for this fire-breathing spirit.</p>
<p>My first experience with &#8220;Scotch,&#8221; beyond the obligatory Johnnie Walker Black Label and a 12-year-old Chivas Regal, was a small bottle of 18-year-old Glenfiddich, a mighty fine and never-a-harsh taste, if I may say so. But some might find it a tad characterless, but not me.</p>
<p>I would have to say now my go-to spirit is the Glenmorangie 10, and when I have a hankering for a slight caramel taste, the Macallan 12 isn&#8217;t bad at all. The Glenlivet 12 is also refreshing, but not quite as involving as, let&#8217;s say, the Balvenie.</p>
<p>So, I think I have a ways to go before I can more fully embrace the Lagavulin 16. Meanwhile, I will take you Whiskey Fanatic Test to see how far I have come.</p>
<p>Cheers and Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Scotch Hobbyist</title>
		<link>http://scotchhobbyist.com/2009/12/30/lagavulin-16-2009/#comment-1687</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 07:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the kind words! You&#039;re right about this being strong...certainly relative to the likes of the Balvenie expressions I recently reviewed. 

As for &quot;mistaking&quot; the aroma for iodine, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a mistake, or limited to the virgin palate. There&#039;s definitely an iodine presence there. If in doubt, rub some Lagavulin 16 on a piece of paper and let it sit for a while. The iodine sticks around after most of the other aromas die down.

Cheers,
Jeff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words! You&#8217;re right about this being strong&#8230;certainly relative to the likes of the Balvenie expressions I recently reviewed. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;mistaking&#8221; the aroma for iodine, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a mistake, or limited to the virgin palate. There&#8217;s definitely an iodine presence there. If in doubt, rub some Lagavulin 16 on a piece of paper and let it sit for a while. The iodine sticks around after most of the other aromas die down.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Artar1</title>
		<link>http://scotchhobbyist.com/2009/12/30/lagavulin-16-2009/#comment-1686</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 05:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, let me commend Scotch Hobbyist for an excellent review of Lagavulin 16.

I&#039;m new to Lagavulin so I cannot possibly do it justice by reviewing it to any extent; I will let others do that.

But I will say Lagavulin is for a mature taste because this whiskey has a complex and very strong peat and smoke flavor that could be mistaken for the aroma of iodine on a more virgin palette. If one is looking for a smooth, delicate, and refined experience, I would suggest looking elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me commend Scotch Hobbyist for an excellent review of Lagavulin 16.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new to Lagavulin so I cannot possibly do it justice by reviewing it to any extent; I will let others do that.</p>
<p>But I will say Lagavulin is for a mature taste because this whiskey has a complex and very strong peat and smoke flavor that could be mistaken for the aroma of iodine on a more virgin palette. If one is looking for a smooth, delicate, and refined experience, I would suggest looking elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think OUR list is lame?  Look at Ohio - a &quot;true&quot; ABC state (where the liquor shelves are stocked/managed/owned by the state - the stores only own the wine/beer inventory).  This is about as lame as it gets:

http://www.com.ohio.gov/liqr/rpts/dolc.liquor.pricelist.txt

PLUS - it&#039;s a text-list, not even a true database.  Other than Laphroaig 10 at $38, it&#039;s a total waste - and Ohio *never* actually gets the good stuff.  Most ABC states don&#039;t get any kind of allocation on the cooler items - even if they agree to carry them.  Distributors and Distillers don&#039;t want to work with ABC folks.

Oh - did I mention that it&#039;s *technically* illegal to mail order alcohol to Michigan?  Binny&#039;s and K&amp;L won&#039;t do it - a few will, but most won&#039;t... have to search to find the folks willing to risk it...

OH- remind me to recount my Holiday journey to Kentucky - we hit 6 of the 8 distilleries between over 2.5 days just after Christmas.  Was a BLAST - learned a ton, met Elmer T. Lee himself @ Buffalo Trace, learned that Four Roses is REALLY REALLY good - picked up some really cool stuff in Kentucky at The Party Source... was a blast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think OUR list is lame?  Look at Ohio &#8211; a &#8220;true&#8221; ABC state (where the liquor shelves are stocked/managed/owned by the state &#8211; the stores only own the wine/beer inventory).  This is about as lame as it gets:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.com.ohio.gov/liqr/rpts/dolc.liquor.pricelist.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.com.ohio.gov/liqr/rpts/dolc.liquor.pricelist.txt</a></p>
<p>PLUS &#8211; it&#8217;s a text-list, not even a true database.  Other than Laphroaig 10 at $38, it&#8217;s a total waste &#8211; and Ohio *never* actually gets the good stuff.  Most ABC states don&#8217;t get any kind of allocation on the cooler items &#8211; even if they agree to carry them.  Distributors and Distillers don&#8217;t want to work with ABC folks.</p>
<p>Oh &#8211; did I mention that it&#8217;s *technically* illegal to mail order alcohol to Michigan?  Binny&#8217;s and K&amp;L won&#8217;t do it &#8211; a few will, but most won&#8217;t&#8230; have to search to find the folks willing to risk it&#8230;</p>
<p>OH- remind me to recount my Holiday journey to Kentucky &#8211; we hit 6 of the 8 distilleries between over 2.5 days just after Christmas.  Was a BLAST &#8211; learned a ton, met Elmer T. Lee himself @ Buffalo Trace, learned that Four Roses is REALLY REALLY good &#8211; picked up some really cool stuff in Kentucky at The Party Source&#8230; was a blast.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotch Hobbyist</title>
		<link>http://scotchhobbyist.com/2009/12/30/lagavulin-16-2009/#comment-959</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That’s a very interesting link, Tim. Definitely a mixed bag there in Michigan, with some great buys like Glenmorangie Gift Pack and Laphroaig 18, but a lot of not so great buys…and the fact that you’re limited to just this list is pretty lame. I didn’t realize we were “lucky” to be getting something like Four Roses here in AZ.

The various state and federal regulations on liquor seem so backwards in this age of global commerce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s a very interesting link, Tim. Definitely a mixed bag there in Michigan, with some great buys like Glenmorangie Gift Pack and Laphroaig 18, but a lot of not so great buys…and the fact that you’re limited to just this list is pretty lame. I didn’t realize we were “lucky” to be getting something like Four Roses here in AZ.</p>
<p>The various state and federal regulations on liquor seem so backwards in this age of global commerce.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[State *MINIMUM* here in Michigan is $86.99!

So - your store price in NYC is nearly 1/2 off our price...

We get some good deals on certain things - esp. certain Bourbon and Laphroigs, but there&#039;s other stuff that&#039;s stratospheric...

If you ever want, just for grins, to see what a &quot;state controlled&quot; liquor selection looks like, check out this site:

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/lcc_code/sr_lcc.asp

Just use the drop down to select the &quot;type&quot; (Scotch, Straight Bourbon, Straigh Rye, etc.).  95% of the stores here sell at &quot;State Minimum&quot; - and that&#039;s the lowest price legally allowed.  But you can always upcharge - and some do on &quot;premium&quot; or hard to find items... but you can almost always find it at state  minimum...  

FWIW:  This is the *absolute* list of what&#039;s legally allowed to be sold in the state.  Michigan buys the stuff from 3 total distributors at fixed prices based on what&#039;s &quot;decided&quot; by some office dweeb in Lansing along with the distributors themselves, and then re-sells to the stores.

Stuff like Longrow, Four Roses, more obscure/specialty expressions and lots of independent bottlers are never even sold here.

Further, there&#039;s probably 20+ items in the Scotch list that, while approved, are never &quot;allocated&quot; to the state - so you won&#039;t see them despite being on the &quot;list&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State *MINIMUM* here in Michigan is $86.99!</p>
<p>So &#8211; your store price in NYC is nearly 1/2 off our price&#8230;</p>
<p>We get some good deals on certain things &#8211; esp. certain Bourbon and Laphroigs, but there&#8217;s other stuff that&#8217;s stratospheric&#8230;</p>
<p>If you ever want, just for grins, to see what a &#8220;state controlled&#8221; liquor selection looks like, check out this site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/lcc_code/sr_lcc.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/lcc_code/sr_lcc.asp</a></p>
<p>Just use the drop down to select the &#8220;type&#8221; (Scotch, Straight Bourbon, Straigh Rye, etc.).  95% of the stores here sell at &#8220;State Minimum&#8221; &#8211; and that&#8217;s the lowest price legally allowed.  But you can always upcharge &#8211; and some do on &#8220;premium&#8221; or hard to find items&#8230; but you can almost always find it at state  minimum&#8230;  </p>
<p>FWIW:  This is the *absolute* list of what&#8217;s legally allowed to be sold in the state.  Michigan buys the stuff from 3 total distributors at fixed prices based on what&#8217;s &#8220;decided&#8221; by some office dweeb in Lansing along with the distributors themselves, and then re-sells to the stores.</p>
<p>Stuff like Longrow, Four Roses, more obscure/specialty expressions and lots of independent bottlers are never even sold here.</p>
<p>Further, there&#8217;s probably 20+ items in the Scotch list that, while approved, are never &#8220;allocated&#8221; to the state &#8211; so you won&#8217;t see them despite being on the &#8220;list&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gal Granov</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here in the &quot;duty free&quot; where it&#039;s supposed to be &quot;cheap&quot; it goes for 70 $]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here in the &#8220;duty free&#8221; where it&#8217;s supposed to be &#8220;cheap&#8221; it goes for 70 $</p>
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		<title>By: Scotch Hobbyist</title>
		<link>http://scotchhobbyist.com/2009/12/30/lagavulin-16-2009/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scotch Hobbyist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$50? What a steal! That&#039;s what Caol Ila 12 goes for here (if you&#039;re lucky). I hope you always keep a bottle of Laga 16 on your shelf at that price...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$50? What a steal! That&#8217;s what Caol Ila 12 goes for here (if you&#8217;re lucky). I hope you always keep a bottle of Laga 16 on your shelf at that price&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Best in Blog #58: Top 10 Whiskies of 2009; Distilleries Doing Good Work &#124; Whisky Party</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Best in Blog #58: Top 10 Whiskies of 2009; Distilleries Doing Good Work &#124; Whisky Party]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Scotch Hobbyist reevaluates an old standard &#8211; Lagavulin 16. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Whisky Party</title>
		<link>http://scotchhobbyist.com/2009/12/30/lagavulin-16-2009/#comment-949</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You definitely need to get out here to NYC.  Lagavulin 16 is $50 at Warehouse Wine and Liquor on Broadway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You definitely need to get out here to NYC.  Lagavulin 16 is $50 at Warehouse Wine and Liquor on Broadway.</p>
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